Turning Our Hearts: John MILLER and Hannah VAN VELSOR updated

This photo of John Miller was posted on Ancestry.com by a cousin

John MILLER, son of John MILLER and his wife Mary
     b. 21 April 1812 Staten Island, Richmond, New York
d. 5 May 1899 Brooklyn, Kings, New York
   m. abt 1832 to

Hannah VAN VELSOR, parents unknown
b. about 1817 Long Island, New York

d. in between 1870-1880 censuses

issue:

1. John Henry MILLER (married Sarah Ann NEWMAN)
   b. 11 May 1833 Brooklyn/ m. Dec 1852/ d. 14 Jun 1901

2. Elizabeth Jane MILLER (married Mortimer A. DOTY)
   b. 25 September 1834 Brooklyn/m. ~1858/d. 27 December 1917 Nashville, Davidson, Tennessee)
(photo below)

3. Adeline A. MILLER (married Henry B. SOUTHARD)
   b. 20 Nov 1837 Brooklyn/ m. about 1854/ d. 24 Apr 1901 Bellmore, Nassau, New York
(photo below)

4. Cornelius V. MILLER (married Nellie A. COON)
b 1838-39 in NY (he was in Ohio in 1860, in NY in 1864-65, and in Wisconsin in 1880)

5. Aaron Kimball MILLER (m. Helen Van DRESSER)
b. May 1846 in NY / m. about 1881/ d. 22 February 1927 in Wisconsin

6. Ezra W. MILLER
   b. 1847-48 in NY

7. Mary Lavinia MILLER (m. John PATTERSON)
   b. 1849-50 in NY/m. abt 1867/d. 12 February 1917 Brooklyn, Kings, New York

8. Serena MILLER (m. William A. WILLIAMS)
   b. 1851-52 in NY/ m. 2 January 1882 NY/d. probably May 1891

(photo below)

9. Emma Louise MILLER (m. William Miller WANDELL)
   b. 1853-54 in NY/m. 1879/d. 11 August 1935 New York City

10. Lany MILLER
   b. 1855-56 in Ohio

11. Anna I. or J. MILLER
   b. Dec 1859 in Ohio

12? Sunnah MILLER
     b. 1865 New York (unless the NY State census is wrong and this should have been Lany...)

John was born in New York and had his first 9 children there, but then he moved to Ohio where Lany and Anna were born. He is in the 1860 census in Madison, Lake, Ohio. He is back in New York for the 1865 census where Lany isn't listed, but Sunnah (Lunnah?) is. She is age 0. I'm wondering if Lunnah is Lany and they messed up.

In the 1880 census, John is in LaFayette, Chippewa, Wisconsin as a widower living with his son Cornelius.

John's death certificate, issued in 1899, states that he had been a resident of the City of New York for the past 20 years, so I'm guessing he moved from Wisconsin back to New York soon after the 1880 census.

In some census records, John is listed as being born in New York, but in the 1880 census, he and his parents are listed as having New Jersey as their birthplace. The unusual thing is, John is living with his son, Cornelius, in Wisconsin in 1880 and the record for Cornelius says that his father was born in Staten Island, yet John's birthplace, instead of saying he was born in Staten Island, says he was born in New Jersey. I'm wondering if Staten Island was sometimes listed as being in New Jersey? (from the internet: Did Staten Island belong to New Jersey? Although Staten Island is a borough of New York City, the island is topographically and geologically a part of New Jersey. Staten Island is separated from Long Island by the Narrows and from mainland New Jersey by the Arthur Kill and the Kill Van Kull).

1850 US Federal Census Brooklyn Ward 7, Kings, New York

John MILLER 38 Carman Born in NY (they all were)

Hannah 32

John H 17 Carpenter

Elizabeth Jane 15

Adaline 13

Cornelius 11

Benjamin F 7

Aaron K (V?) 5

Ezra W 2

1860 US Federal Census Madison Township, Lake, Ohio

John MILLER 48 New York farmer

Hannah 42 New York

Cornelius 21 New York

Arson 14 New York

Ezra 12 New York

Mary L. 10 New York

Serena 8 New York

Emma 6 New York

Lany 4 Ohio

Anna J 6/12 Ohio

1865 New York State Census Brooklyn Ward 7, Kings, New York

John MILLER 53 Staten Island shipp framer Navy yard

Emma 46 Brooklyn

Aron A 21 Brooklyn

Marey L 15 Brooklyn

Syrena 13 Brooklyn

Emma L. 10 Brooklyn

Sunnah 0 Brooklyn

next door:

Cornelius B MILLER 26 Brooklyn ship carpenter Navy yard

Nelia 25 New York City

Benjamin T 1 Brooklyn

Elizabeth MILLER 73 Long Island mother [grandmother?]

can't find them in 1870 or 1875 censuses

1880 US Federal Census Lafayette, Chippewa, Wisconsin

Cornelius V MILLER 44 New York-Staten Island-New York farmer

Nellie A 40 New York-New York-New York

Frank B. 15 New York-New York-New York

Fred 5/12 New York-New York-New York

John 68 New Jersey-New Jersey-New Jersey father

timeline:

1812        John MILLER born on Staten Island

1817 his wife Hannah VAN VELSOR born on Long Island

1832ish    John and Hannah marry

1833        John Henry MILLER born probably in Brooklyn

1834    Elizabeth Jane MILLER born in Brooklyn

1837    Adeline A. MILLER born in Brooklyn

1839    Cornelius V. MILLER born in New York

1845 Aaron Kimball MILLER born in New York

1847    Ezra W. MILLER born in New York

1849    Mary Lavinia MILLER born in New York

1851        Serena Adelia MILLER born in New York

1852    John Henry MILLER and Sarah Ann NEWMAN marry in New York

1853    Emma MILLER born in New York

1854    Caroline MILLER born in New York (dau of John Henry and Sarah)
              Adeline A. MILLER and Henry B. SOUTHARD marry in New York

1855ish    looks like everyone but Adeline moves to Ohio
1855    Lany MILLER born in Ohio

1856    Mary Jane MILLER born in Ohio (dau of John Henry and Sarah)

1857    John Henry and family move back to New York (perhaps with Cornelius?)
Frances Elizabeth MILLER born in New York (dau of John Henry and Sarah)

1859      Anna I. or J. MILLER born in Ohio

1860 John and Hannah MILLER family enumerated in Madison, Lake, Ohio
1860      Emma Lavinia MILLER born in New York (dau of John Henry and Sarah)

1863ish    Cornelius MILLER and Nellie A. COON marry probrably in New York

1865    Benjamin Franklin MILLER born in New York (son of Cornelius and Nellie)
1865 Lunnah born in New York (maybe)

1866    Charles Latimer MILLER born in New York (son of John Henry and Sarah)

1870 John, Hannah, Syrena, Emma, and Lany MILLER enumerated in Hempstead, Queens, New York

between 1870 and 1880     Hannah VAN VELSOR MILLER dies (see 1879)

1879    Fred MILLER born in Wisconsin (son of Cornelius and Nellie)
1879        this might be Hannah (VAN VELSOR) MILLER's death date (6 July 1879 Brooklyn)

1880      John MILLER is enumerated with Cornelius's family in Lafayette, Chippewa, Wisconsin

1881ish    John MILLER moves back to New York

1899    John MILLER dies in Brooklyn, Kings, New York

1901    Adeline A (MILLER) SOUTHARD dies in Bellmore, Nassau, New York
1901      John Henry MILLER dies in Brooklyn, Kings, New York

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Brooklyn Daily Eagle

Brooklyn, New York

May 6, 1899 Saturday Page 2

John Miller, a member of Janes Methodist Episcopal Church, died at his home, corner of Gates and Patchen avenues, yesterday, in his 87th year. He was the oldest member of the church. He was born on Staten Island in 1812, and had been a farmer in a number of Western States finally returning to Brooklyn, where he retired from business. Eight children, fifteen grandchildren, and 6 great grandchildren survive him. The funeral service will be held at Janes ME Church on Sunday at 4 pm.

[I have to say that when I read "western states" I was thinking California, Oregon, etc. So the fact that it turned out to be Ohio and Wisconsin kind of made me laugh.]

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The Brooklyn Daily Eagle

Brooklyn, New York

25 April 1901 Thursday Page 8

Mrs. Henry B. Southard

Bellmore,- L. I., April 25--Adeline, wife of Henry B. Southard, ex-highway commissioner, died yesterday morning of dropsy [edema]. She has been a resident of this section since childhood. For many years her connection with the Newbridge M. E. Church was characterized by active work. A husband and son, Edward, of Hicksville, survive her. Funeral services will be held to-morrow.

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