In 2011, I was contacted by a "new" cousin, Mark Martin, about Mary Elizabeth (PINNER) RUSS. We had had contact years ago as he was looking into the Pinner family, but we didn't know if we were related then. It looks like we are. One circumstantial piece of evidence is that in his grandmother's address book, I think it was, was my Mary's name.
Family:
Arthur PINNER (3rd child and only son, that we know of, of Wright PINNER, who was the son of Arthur PINNER and Rebecca RASPBERRY), wife suspected to be Mary ROURK, is the father of:
b. about 1795
d. before 1840
1-Thomas Arthur PINNER
1-Thomas Arthur PINNER
b: 9 January 1828 in Brunswick county, North Carolina
m. to Annie E.
d. 28 September 1865.
2-Mary Elizabeth "Elisabeth" PINNER - my great-great grandmother
b: 6 July 1829 in Brunswick county, North Carolina
m. Isham Allen RUSS, Sr. 1853 in Richmond county, North Carolina
d. 15 May 1904 in Lee county, North Carolina
3- Joe PINNER b: in North Carolina
b. about 1835 in Brunswick county, North Carolina
m. Nancy STRYCHAN
4- Benjamin Hilliard PINNER
b: 1 April 1836 in Brunswick county, North Carolina
m. Hannah Mary DUSENBURY
d. 30 May 1902
Wright PINNER's wife may have been a Mary ROURK. Still working on that one.
About Mary Rourk, my cousin Mark Martin says:
Name: Mary Rourk?
Birth: 1805 in North Carolina
Death: 10 Feb 1884 Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina
Burial: Hardeeville, Jasper, South Carolina
Note: Death certificate in Charleston County Library...not sure this woman belongs as the wife of Arthur PINNER Jr and the mother of Joe & Ben PINNER
Not sure if Mary Elisabeth Pinner Russ belongs with this family...in 1870 Elnora Pinner who would be the right age for Eleanor Pinner Holcum is living with her family...I'm thinking she must have been a niece.
In 1840 Brunswick County, NC census a Mary Pinner has 2 males under age 5; 1 male 5-10; 1 female 10-15; 1 female 30-40-----
Below I will post part of one of Mark's emails, but the basic idea is that through interviewing family members they have come up with the fact that Thomas Arthur PINNER (1829-1865), Benjamin Hilliard PINNER, and Joe PINNER were brothers. The link that my Mary Elizabeth PINNER is their sister in tenuous...Joe's daughter Eleanora appears to have been at Mary's house during the 1870 census.
Now here is some info from one of Mark's emails:
I'm not sure what we discussed before about the Pinner family. But the Elnora Pinner living with the Russ family is Eleanora "Elnora" Pinner Holcomb who died in Robeson County, NC in 1925. According to an interview with Dora Pinner Edmondson by her nephew Champ Dalton "Joe" Pinner Jr. she said that her father Thomas Arthur Pinner (1857-1920) had a sister Eleanor Pinner Holcomb. This seems to be confirmed by the 1920 census when Dora's youngest sister Chettie Pinner is living in NC with the family of James Evander Holcomb and is listed as cousin. He was a son of Eleanor Pinner Holcomb.
Now here is some info from one of Mark's emails:
I'm not sure what we discussed before about the Pinner family. But the Elnora Pinner living with the Russ family is Eleanora "Elnora" Pinner Holcomb who died in Robeson County, NC in 1925. According to an interview with Dora Pinner Edmondson by her nephew Champ Dalton "Joe" Pinner Jr. she said that her father Thomas Arthur Pinner (1857-1920) had a sister Eleanor Pinner Holcomb. This seems to be confirmed by the 1920 census when Dora's youngest sister Chettie Pinner is living in NC with the family of James Evander Holcomb and is listed as cousin. He was a son of Eleanor Pinner Holcomb.
Now the confusing part is that Eleanor Pinner Holcomb's death certificate says she was the daughter of Thomas and Mary Pinner. Dora's father Thomas Arthur Pinner's death certificate says he was the son of Joe Pinner and Strychlan. Dora said her grandparents were Joe and Nancy Strickland Pinner... and that Nancy later married a Walters. My grandad's sister Lucille Pinner Rich talked about her grandfather being an orphan but I can't remember the details.
I don't find Thomas Arthur Pinner in a census until 1900 when he is married and living in Horry County, SC. I've never been able to find a Joe or Nancy Pinner in any census that fit. I think Thomas Arthur Pinner (1857-1920) and Eleanor Pinner Holcomb (1856-1924) were brother and sister and that their father's sister was Mary Elizabeth Pinner Russ (b. ca 1829).
According to my grandad's sister Betty Pinner Moore or either Virigina Pinner Hearl her father was a cousin to a V. D. Pinner s/o Benjamin Hilliard Pinner. Also in the same interview with Dora Pinner Edmondson she said her grandfather had brothers Benjamin Hilliard Pinner (1836-1902) and Thomas Arthur Pinner (1828-1865).
In discussing the older Pinner families from Brunswick County, NC with some Pinners that went to Florida it seems that Thomas Arthur, Mary Elizabeth, Benjamin Hilliard and Joe Pinner were likely children of Arthur and Mary Rourk Pinner and that this Arthur Pinner was a son of Wright Pinner. Mary Rourk Pinner I think is the Mary Pinner who died in Charleston, SC February 10, 1884 and was buried in Hardeeville, Jasper County, SC--the same place where her son Benjamin Hilliard's son Benjamin H. Pinner was buried.
In discussing the older Pinner families from Brunswick County, NC with some Pinners that went to Florida it seems that Thomas Arthur, Mary Elizabeth, Benjamin Hilliard and Joe Pinner were likely children of Arthur and Mary Rourk Pinner and that this Arthur Pinner was a son of Wright Pinner. Mary Rourk Pinner I think is the Mary Pinner who died in Charleston, SC February 10, 1884 and was buried in Hardeeville, Jasper County, SC--the same place where her son Benjamin Hilliard's son Benjamin H. Pinner was buried.
