Monday, October 8, 2012

Sylvester Latimer's family, Ohio 1800s

Trying to untangle some more mysteries.

So, now that it looks like I've found some of Charles D Latimer's family, I wanted to solve the mystery of his mother. The 1850 census has his father, Sylvester, married to a Susan Jane who was born in Kentucky. But Charles's mother was born in Pennsylvania. Was Sylvester married twice? I hunted around and I believe he was.

from
 http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~delawareohio/Cemetery/og/og_data_excel/l.htm


last name    first                                             birth date             death date       father                                  

Latimer Harriet M. --/--/1804 04/29/1845 Meeker, Forrest  (Col.)
Latimer John F. "Father" --/--/1801 --/--/1894
Latimer Lucius --/--/1807 03/07/1849
Latimer Martha Rosine --/--/1838 08/11/1874 Latimer, Sylvester Meeker, Harriet
Latimer Mary Simonette "Mother" 01/16/1805 09/24/1884 Williams,
Latimer Susan J. --/--/1801 12/31/1898
Latimer Sylvester --/--/1799 01/30/1877
Latimore Susan A. 04/19/1896

Luttgen Harriet M. 11/23/1842 06/06/1910 Latimer, Sylvester Meeker, Harriet
Luttgen Ludwig A.A. 10/07/1831 12/03/1909
Luttgen Mary Harriet --/--/1868 08/19/1868 Luttgen, Ludwig A.A. Meeker, Harriet
Luttgen Percy L. 08/04/1874 02/12/1882 Luttgen, Ludwig Meeker, Harriet

So I wanted to track down Harriet Meeker, whom I believe is the mother of Harriet M. Luttgen, and therefore the mother of Charles D Latimer. I don't know why Harriet Meeker is listed as the mother of Mary Harriet Luttgen and Percy L Luttgen, as I know it's Harriet M. Latimer...maybe the "M" stands for Meeker in her name.

According to a family tree on ancestry.com Sylvester Latimer and Harriet Meeker married on 6 November 1828

Harriet Meeker Latimer died in 1845

And then I found this:

Fleming county Kentucky marriage records 1798-1851
Sylvester Latimer and Susan Stith m. 4 January 1849

So then I start hunting Susan Stith as I know in census records Sylvester's wife is named Susan Jane and she was born in Kentucky.

In the will of Jane Heddleston Stith from http://www.jscott.tierranet.com/ancestry/stith/ellamae/ancestry.htm
she mentions her daughter Susan Latimer in her will. She also mentions other children, and through tracking a son I see that he wound up in Delaware, Delaware, Ohio. While not proof, I'll take it.

So, this is what it's looking like to me:

Sylvester Latimer
b. 1799 d. 30 January 1877
m 1st Harriet Meeker on 6 November 1828

issue:
1-Virgil P Latimer b. January 1830, husband to Josephine Hopkins
2-Henry Sylvester Latimer b. 13 September 1831, husband to Lucinda Coon (according to a family tree on ancestry.com)
3-Charles D Latimer b. June 1833, husband to Frances E Newman married in New York
4-Sarah J Latimer b. about 1834 (16 in the 1860 census)
5-Mary A Latimer b. about 1836 (14 in the 1860 census)
6-Martha Rosine Latimer b. about 1838 (12 in the 1850 census, 31 in the 1870), wife of Henry Clark
    but why is Rose Latimer living with Sylvester in the 1870 census...why isn't she with her husband?
7-Josephine Latimer b. about 1840 (she was not in the 1850 census, but was 20 in the 1860 census, and there's a Josey in the 1870 census that is 28)
8-Harriet M Latimer b. 23 November 1842 d. 6 June 1910, wife of Lucius A A (Ludwig Adolph August) Luttgen (8 in 1850, 17 in 1860)

Harriet Meeker Latimer died 29 April 1845

Sylvester Latimer marries 2nd Susan Jane Stith on 4 January 1949

Sylvester and Susan then appear on the 1850 census and everyone thinks she is the mother of the children.

Sylvester dies 30 January 1877.

Susan dies 31 January 1898.


Sunday, October 7, 2012

tracking Charles D Latimer, b.1833 Ohio

After posting about Frances E Newman Latimer, I spent some time tracking her husband. Here are the results.

Charles D Latimer
b. June 1833 Ohio
d. 9 October 1915

He spent time in several different National Homes for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers from which records I discovered that:
He was in Company G of the 74th New York Infantry under Captain Chester.
He was 5'6", light complexion, blue eyes, grey hair, and his occupation is burnisher.
He has a brother named Virgil T Latimer (except that it's Virgil P Latimer)
He has a sister named Mrs. Hattie Lutzen (Harriet Luttgen)
He has a relative named Walter Lutgen (turned out to be his cousin, Harriet's son)
He had a niece named Mrs. Fannie Edgar (married James Edgar 2nd, the last name of her first husband was Thornburg. I haven't tracked down her maiden name yet, so I don't know how she's Charles's niece).
His health problems: right inguinal hernia, impaired vision, incontinence, senility, bunions on both feet.

Tracing the above people, I believe that Charles D. Latimer and Virgil P Latimer are the sons of Sylvester Latimer and Harriet is his daughter.

I'm not positive about this list of children for Sylvester Latimer as some census years had slightly different info and I don't have "proof" other than Charles's brother was Virgil and his sister was Harriet Lutgen...and Harriet's parents are Sylvester and Harriet.

children of Sylvester and Harriet Meeker:
1-Virgil P Latimer b. January 1830, husband to Josephine Hopkins
2-Henry Sylvester Latimer b. 13 September 1831, husband to Lucinda Coon (according to a family tree on ancestry.com)
3-Charles D Latimer b. June 1833, husband to Frances E Newman
4-Sarah J Latimer b. about 1834 (16 in the 1860 census)
5-Mary A Latimer b. about 1836 (14 in the 1860 census)
6-Martha Rose Latimer b. about 1838 (12 in the 1850 census, 31 in the 1870), wife of Henry Clark
    but why is Rose Latimer living with Sylvester in the 1870 census...why isn't she with her husband?
7-Josephine Latimer b. about 1840 (she was not in the 1850 census, but was 20 in the 1860 census, and there's a Josey in the 1870 census that is 28)
8-Harriet M Latimer b. 23 November 1842 d. 6 June 1910, wife of Lucius A A (Ludwig Adolph August) Luttgen (8 in 1850, 17 in 1860)


Charles D Latimer's timeline:

1833-born in Ohio in June 1833

1850-age 17-he is in Simsbury, Hartford, Connecticut listed with the family of Decius Latimer, but is not his child

1852-age 21-he is listed in the California State Census in El Dorado county (I wouldn't be sure it was my Charles, but his brother Virgil was in El Dorado county California in the 1850 census)

1855-Hartford Connecticut--he is in the city directory as Charles D Latimer, barber, 112 Main St

1861-age 28-he enlists in New York in the 74th NY Infantry on 5 June 1861 as a Private

1862-he musters out at Fort McHenry in Baltimore, Maryland on 5 November 1962 as a Sergeant

1865-he marries Frances E Newman in Brooklyn, Kings, New York on 8 September 1865, they later
         divorced apparently as she remarries in 1901 to Edgar Skidmore, but Charles is still alive

1866-his son Charles O Latimer is born about 1 July 1866

1868-he is listed in the Brooklyn directory as a plater, lives at 64 Washington Ave
1869-he is listed in the Brooklyn directory as a plasterer, lives at 676 Myrtle Ave

1871-there is a Charles C Latimer listed in the Columbus, Ohio directory and occupation is listed as electro plater

1871-age 38-he is at the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers in Johnson City, Washington, Tennessee

1871-age 38-he is at the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers in Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio

1873-age 40-he is at the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

1876-he is listed in the Brooklyn directory as a plater, lives at 519 De Kalb Ave
1877-he is listed in the Brooklyn directory as a plater, lives at 519 De Kalb Ave

1884-age 51-he is at the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers in Bath, Steuben, New York

1889-(age 55) his son, Charles O. Latimer, dies in Brooklyn 1 April 1889

1900 US Census-age 67-he is in Jefferson, Montgomery, Ohio in a National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldier, b. June 1833, divorced, b. Ohio, father born Connecticut, mother born Pennsylvania

1910 US Census-age 77-he is in Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland, he was a lodger, widower, silver plater is his occupation, b. Ohio, father born Connecticut, mother born Pennsylvania

1915-he died on 9 October 1915 of a cerebral hemorrhage. The military record is unclear, but I believe he died in Ohio.

Name: Charles Latimer
Service Info.: SGT INFANTRY CIVIL WAR
Death Date: 9 Oct 1915
Cemetery: Dayton National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: VA Medical Center 4100 West Third Street Dayton, OH 45428
Buried At: Section 1 Row 13 Site 35

I can't find him in the 1860, 1870, or the 1880 census, or the New York State Censuses. The 1900 census is the only time divorce is listed. Frances is listed as a widow in 1872, 1880, 1882, and 1889.